It’s
a Good Starting Point The Charter Chief on the Reforms
- and Himself The Nations Thailand Asiaweek October 10, 1997 In
the popular imagination, Anand Panyarachun’s persona is that of a retired, reluctant
sheriff called up by the decent folk of some Wild West town to get rid of the
bad guys terrorizing them. The reputation as saviour was forged during Anand’s
two short, but highly effective stints, as caretaker prime minister. The first
was in February 1991, when a military junta asked him to head the government.
The second was after the May 1992 crack-down on democracy demonstrators. During
both periods, Anand performed like no other Thai premier - with competence, honesty
and the public interest in mind. Small wonder many Thais want the suave former
diplomat and businessman back as Prime Minister, especially during this time of
political and economic uncertainty. Anand,
now 65, would decline in the unlikely event such an offer was made, but he did
agree to serve as chairman of the Constitution drafting committee, over-seeing
99 indirectly elected people from various walks of life - politics, business,
academia. The upshot is a new charter that goes some way toward cleaning up Thai
politics and improving civil rights and liberties. As
an aristocrat and self-professed Anglophile (he graduated from Cambridge in Law).
Anand can come across as elitist and autocratic in style. In substance, however,
he is very much a man of the people. On the eve of the parliamentary vote over
the new Constitution, Anand discussed the changes, their implications for the
country - and himself - with Correspondent Julian Gearing. Excerpts from their
90-minute talk: The current Constitution
was actually drafted and amended when you were in office. Did you not have any
concerns about it at the time? Every now and then there
are complaints, that when I was Prime Minister, why did I not use the opportunity
to reform the political system? The fact is that when I was first asked (by the
coup leaders) to be Prime Minister, I was a bit ambivalent. On the one hand, the
military knew that all my life I had been against dictatorship, corruption and
extreme rightist policies. On the other hand, I saw that the coup did receive
fairly strong support from the public, because the public was fed up with the
government and with the corruption. I knew that if I were to accept (the job),
I would disappoint a number of my more liberal friends, those people who viewed
me as a sort of standard bearer for democratic ideas. I said to myself, if I were
to go in, try to sort out the confusion and chaos, it would have some redeeming
value. I did not like certain provisions in that interim constitution, but after
I talked to (the coup leaders), I said to myself, you are damned if you do, you
are damned if you don’t (laughs) - so I went in. So I had nothing to do with the
Constitution. As a result, during Anand I and Anand II, I was not able to take
any political initiatives. There is
criticism that the new charter is too much of a compromise. Compromise
is the basis of democracy. Whatever course we decide to take, it is always subject
to criticism. I am aware of that; I am used to it. It doesn’t bother me. There
might be one or two sections where there are problems, but it doesn’t mean the
whole process is bad. It can be amended some time in the future, after the next
election, after the new Constitution has come into force and has been tested in
practical terms. What will this charter
do to tackle vote buying and corrupt practices? The monitoring
process is going to be more thorough. The organs to be set up will have the power
and responsibility of bringing wrong-doers to justice. It doesn’t mean that just
because we have a good Constitution, democracy is going to have a rosy path in
this country. People have to participate in the follow-up. People have to be alert
to see that only all good men are put in these monitoring bodies (laughs). What
about the bad men, the godfathers, the corrupt? Will this new Constitution get
rid of them? You cannot get rid of them over-night. You
have to go through a series of elections. There is a school of thought that people
with un-savory characters, if they live under rules which allow them to show their
un-savory side, they will do it. But if you put them in a different environment,
under different rules, which make it, much more difficult to show their un-savory
side, then they may conform. I will not say they will reform, but they may conform. A
number of politicians have been quite outspoken in their opposition to the draft.
Why do you think someone like Interior Minister Sanoh Thienthong expressed sentiments
against it? Perhaps he is worried this new Constitution
may spell the end of his career. In the debate over this Constitution, many of
the MPs have shown their real characters. Deputy
Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra suggests only rich people, people who can support
themselves, ought to be ministers. I don’t agree with that.
This is a very simplistic assessment. Rich men do not cheat. Or educated people
do not cheat. Will Thailand continues
to be ruled by the elite, people with money? I don’t think
so. Look at Democrat Party leader Chuan Leekpai. He comes from a rural area, he
comes from a very humble family, and his mother is still living in the market
sector of Trang in the South. Look at Britain, at the number of Etonians, the
people with money. Then they had John Major. Times change. We
are sitting in Bangkok, but the provinces rely very much on the old system of
patronage politics. It is not a system, it is a
culture and you cannot change that culture over-night. Democracy is not only based
on the Constitution. It is based on traditions, conventions, and generations of
practice, which form into a culture, a democratic culture. We don’t have that
yet. It will be a long time before we do. We have to uplift education, we have
to enable the people to earn a decent livelihood, because what is the use of talking
about democracy or the Constitution, if they have no jobs? It is no use saying
because we don’t have this and we don’t have that, then dismantle the whole process. If
we look at the bigger picture, how does Thailand’s democracy compare with others
in Asia? As far as democracy is concerned, we are much
better off than many other nations in terms of freedom of assembly, of expression,
of civil rights and liberties. On the other hand, we in Thailand have had a so-called
democratic period of only 65 years, with 40 years of interruption from military
coups and “what-not”, so it is a fledgling democracy. People are not accustomed
to the principles of democracy, to the philosophy. Many think that if you are
able to exercise your vote once every three to four years, that is democracy.
It is not only about participating in elections. It is about involvement in the
decision-making process and in the governance of the country. We tend to look
to the form rather than to the substance and essence. A
few critics have questioned whether Thailand should be borrowing political systems
from the West. They all wear suits to Parliament. To me,
it is a very flimsy charge. After all democracy was born in the West. So if we
didn’t go to the source, where could we go? The philosophy itself is something
that is not indigenous. If you don’t learn from the mistakes of other countries,
the way they reform their political system and the way they try to reform their
perennial problems, who could we go to? There is nothing to be ashamed of; there
is nothing wrong with this approach. Will
you return to politics? I was never really in politics.
I was brought into it, practically dragged into it. I enjoyed the work that I
did as Prime Minister. I think I did some good for the country, but I never liked
the life. Politics is the art of the possible. In the process you have to engage
in manoeuvering and shenanigans. My family wouldn’t want me to take it up again.
It is not my “cup of tea”. It is not my line. I like simplicity. I like my privacy. Often
the Thai people seek a “white knight” to save them in times of crisis. That
is right. That is the problem with the Thai people. They are always looking for
a knight in shining armour. People have given up hope. There has not been any
cheery news for Thailand for quite some time - economically or politically. The
new charter is something to which the public is looking forward to. Of course
you always have to be wary, that you do not raise their expectations too much.
It is not a panacea to all our ills, but it is a good starting point. Because
in a way, it is the first fundamental reform of our political system. It is a
water-shed. |